Is Doreen Virtue finally getting ready to do the Christian thing?

Doreen Virtue refunds cancer patient

We had very good news today. Diana Soenarie got her refund for money donated to Doreen Virtue’s rescue ranch the other day! You may remember Diana from THIS post.

Diana is an amazing spiritual warrior and cancer survivor. While she was still undergoing treatment for her cancer, she was one of the many people who responded to Doreen Virtue’s solicitations for the rescue ranch and donated money she could ill afford at the time because Diana has a big heart.

Of course, at the time, Diana didn’t have a clue that Doreen Virtue was illegally soliciting for a rescue ranch that she would ditch only months later. Nor did she know that what it would take to finally get a refund would be to tweet Doreen Virtue: Diana's tweet to Doreen Virtue

Diana fully expected to be blocked instantly, knowing many of her friends had already been blocked… but I suppose Doreen felt it looked bad. She couldn’t do to Diana what she did to me and lie about her to the world. It would look really bad to lie about a cancer survivor, so she replied – not without a large amount gaslighting:

Doreen Virtue gaslights cancer survivor

The UK Tarot reader she is referring to is, of course, yours truly. She keeps calling me a liar, yet produces no evidence to support her own claims, while I – in post after post – produce factual evidence (with screenshots) of her shenanigans, such as the fact that the rescue ranch, though it was an actual ranch with temporarily rescued animals, was not a registered charity. Hence Doreen was soliciting illegally (according to HI charity legislation) and – one might argue – irresponsibly, in light of how those poor animals were hastily sold/abandoned.

This is of course the real reason why she won’t go ahead and sue me for libel which she said she would do back in May in an attempt to make me shut up and make people believe that I was lying about her.  She also told her Christian following that God had promised her victory in a court of law (watch from around 4 minutes). Of course, this could only ever be an empty threat since I’m not the one on the wrong side of the law so instead she has opted to slander me in public.

Diana’s replies to Doreen – She has since been blocked (quel surprise):

I think Doreen responds again before this next message which seems to be in response to Doreen’s offer of a refund:

I just love Diana’s replies to Doreen. She stands firm in her faith and centred in the truth. Because the truth is that nobody else that we know has been refunded yet – Only the ones (including me and Ursula Clarke) who made massive amounts of noise ever received a refund.

Doreen Virtue clearly wants to be seen to do the Christian thing but it seems to her that means that it is easier to perpetuate her own lies. Joel has still not been refunded, for instance, and he was a regular, monthly donor for several months. If Doreen were telling the truth, surely at least one or two of his donations would have been refunded by now? You can read about his plight HERE and HERE (once again with plenty of factual evidence attached in the form of screenshots).

Unfortunately, it seems not only are some of her Christian followers lapping up Doreen Virtue’s lies about me and other former students/donors that she scammed but so are some of the New Age gurus. I can’t help but wonder why since the evidence is plain for all to see but I suppose it could boil down to an unwillingness to research/fact check and think for oneself (a common enough problem in our day and age!).

The most recent example of this happened on THIS FB page only yesterday where posts that tried to help people find the truth were deleted, comments censored and commenters blocked – It’s like being back in the good old Hay House censorship days.

The truth is we have yet to see a famous spiritual teacher, thought leader or media channel have the guts to investigate this properly and publish the truth. It seems they are all more concerned about protecting their ‘brand’ than helping the victims get justice.

This is why I feel compelled to keep going with this. I may have a small-ish platform compared to the giants in spiritual biz but I am nothing if not stubborn. Until everyone has received their refunds and we know exactly what happened to the rescue animals, including the 16 pigs, this site will stay up. More and more people are finding it and the social media pressure can only keep building.

Peace out,

Lisa

PS. It looks like they have cleaned up their language on their refund notices. This is what I received all those months ago after I first started making some noise 😉 – It’s such a classic example of gaslighting that it should illustrate the concept of ‘gaslighting’ in textbooks:

Refund for Angel Therapy course

28 thoughts on “Is Doreen Virtue finally getting ready to do the Christian thing?”

  1. This whole debacle has shown me who the real spiritual warriors are. It is the small people who are living their truth. The big names who have ignored our pleas for help, the likes of Radleigh Valentine, Brian Weiss and Colette Baron Reid, are to scared to tarnish their own brand and monetary income have just wrapped up our concerns in the whole ‘love and light’ falsity of the new age movement. The ‘don’t make waves it brings down the light’ mentality/excuse is so they don’t loose out on their money.
    So I say hey, why don’t we all move away from them, these big names who in the end don’t give a toss about the individuals as long as they are living in their million dollar mansions …. and see how they like being that single flame of truth.

    1. I so agree with you Jackie. I’ve been a bit down about this recently, as it’s so disheartening to see so many others being duped into believing that speaking the truth and speaking out is negative energy and not heart centred. What a load of tosh.
      Moving away from those big money spinners is always a good idea!
      So, anyone reading this: Don’t buy into this crap! Really, it’s just a money making machine!

  2. I’m glad Diane received a refund finally! I pray Joel and anyone else who desires a refund gets one, but I sincerely doubt anyone else will. I contacted Doreen directly for a refund with all the pertinent information (full name, receipt, bank statement showing the deduction, email, paypal acct) and received RADIO SILENCE. This woman has no intention of living fully as a whole hearted Christian. Thank you for continuing to shed light on the subject, Lisa!

    1. Thanks for feeding this back to us, Angela – Only the ones who make a LOT of noise on social media and somehow threaten Doreen’s image seem to get refunded.

  3. Crowdsourcing the funding of your animal hoarding does not make you a rescue or charity.

    So animal hoarding is the one part of Doreen’s journey I can sort of relate to. Not on this scope. But I too have at times taken on more animals that I can’t manage and I have asked for help with vet bills etc. I have been working on it, and my husband helps bc he can stay strong when I can’t. To a degree I rely on people in my life to set boundaries about this.

    What I didn’t do after that was pretend that this somehow makes me a legitimate rescue. I didn’t turn around and unload …( or worse, sell) my animals. If any friends or family asked me for proof of my bills for them or where the animals went if they were ones I was just fostering, I would tell them. I do not have Doreen’s resources or social media following, so the sad thing is that it seemed to me she missed a good opportunity to start an actual rescue- with volunteers and grant writers that could even give her a tax break and help many animals.

    But then, she’d be accountable to the public.

    1. I suppose we should give her the benefit of doubt when it comes to the ‘animal hoarding’… But another thing you didn’t do (correct me if I’m wrong) was to make videos to solicit for donations, using cute rescue animals as props. I also think it is a HUGE difference to ask friends and family for help with vets bills etc compared to actually soliciting to the general public – especially in states where this is against the law.

      1. PS. Oh, and let’s not forget how those solicitation videos were edited with music added for extra emotional ‘tug at your heartstrings’ effect!

      2. I guess when I said hoarding I meant just taking on multiple animals you don’t have a clear financial plan for. She says that she had over 300 I believe

  4. As Diana’s best friend I can attest to the fact that she is an amazing spiritual warrior and the most loyal and sincere friend anyone could ever ask for . She’s been fighting this battle not once but 3 times and still remains the most stoic individual I’ve known . For this woman to try and demean her is appalling . Diana didn’t even want the money back ( as you can see) . As for these other “ spiritual teachers “ they are the opposite of a true warrior . Coward is more like it . Im grateful every day for all of you who continue to live in truth and integrity . 👏😘

  5. Doreen’s answer to Diana says it all revealing her true face. She shows no self-reflection, integrity and honesty. If she would have all these qualities she could not have conned anyone. First you con people and if they are concerned and shocked about what has happened and speak out you turn the facts around and call them haters. Meanwhile there are many people who made the same experience with Doreen. Thank goodness there are those who collect the facts that happened and speak out to warn others. No more people should be fooled, neither Christians nor people in the New Age.

  6. The way this has turned out with Doreen has turned me away from big time spiritual leaders for all time and I am with those who say to leave them in the dust!
    She keeps blaming you for people being angry with her but fails to acknowledge the damage, emotional ,financial for many, and spiritual , she has inflicted on her many former followers and CUSTOMERS who made her life comfortable.
    It is not your fault , Lisa, it is her own!
    I feel she refunded this lady for no other reason than it looked really bad on her part. I doubt anyone will see any more money without a class action.
    It irks me when she talks of you slandering her. When she called us all Demonic, she slandered us! And she has no right to say that at all . No god appointed her as their spokesperson. She appointed herself! Wake up people who still believe in her!

  7. I find it interesting the words Doreeen used in her message to Diana. Maybe she’s using her psychology degree to try and get into her head. Things like “Hate is very unhealthy ” and “sorry you became so angry”. She was trying to make her feel guilty and almost implying that her hate is related to the cancer. Really makes me sick. Don’t let her get to you. She is a bully in the worst way!

    1. As Diana’s best friend, I can assure you try as she may, Doreen will NEVER get into Diana’s head. Actually I believe it’s quite the opposite. Ouch! 🙂

  8. Doreengate has taught me so much. I am a different person than I was a year ago. I’m grateful for the people I met during this time. They are the real lightworkers.
    Doreen’s lack of empathy, lies, the new lies to cover up old ones, the denouncing new age on one side of her mouth then selling it out of the other, the gaslighting….all of it will catch up with her.
    I now ask myself these questions regarding spiritual ‘teachers’: are they building an empire? Or are they leading? Yeah. The answer says so much about their intention.

    1. It’s been a steep learning curve for many of us and I’m grateful for all I have learned too, as well as the wonderful people I have connected with. I don’t follow any spiritual teachers any more. I’m all grow’d up haha! I don’t value people based on popularity any more. In fact, the more people seem to want to draw people to themselves rather than to their teachings, the more quickly I turn and run the other way.

  9. Oh wonderful! I am so happy that someone else managed to pry some cash from that money-hungry &^%%&$^. Well done Diana, and your message to her was just perfect, thank you for sharing it.

    Her words though! So mean-spirited and such a compulsive liar. Such a shame that her new audience is so full of hate and fear that they are just so happy to see her banging on about hate and fear. They’re blind to the truth because all they care about is that she isn’t ‘new age’ anymore.

    Sometimes, I still hear her voice, or I will see a meme parroting her teachings, and it will be something about ego, passive-aggressiveness, DRAMA, gossip and all of that, and I think just how much she was taking the piss out of us.

    I hate to go against the grain, but I’m not grateful for any connection to her. She stole my money, filled my head full of lies, and hurt animals. I didn’t trust easily before, but forget it now. I miss my naivete! Coming from an abusive childhood, trust is a gift, as is respect, and she took a crap on mine to her. I miss a certain mystical magic that I always felt with my work. My faith is fine. Nothing will ever rock that, but the human side of things, it’s stuffed, and that’s thanks to her. So she can kiss my arse. Her threads had been unraveling for me for a few years now, and no matter what spin I put on it, I have nothing positive from her. I’m not grateful, not one bit. I’m also not hateful by the way, that I don’t do, but nope, no gratitude for being conned and no gratitude for her leaving those poor bloody animals. UGH, still makes me so sad.

    1. I’m not grateful for her – I’m grateful for all I learned and the lessons that followed. Let’s be very clear: she deserves no ‘thanks’ or respect from anybody. She remains a compulsive liar with no sign of remorse for all the pain she has caused.

  10. The complete lack of compassion shown in Doreen’s reply to Diana is so revealing. Could she be less like Jesus?

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