Doreen Virtue’s Supposed Conversion to Traditional Christianity
I am still getting emails about what happened since Doreen Virtue‘s conversion announcement and many of those emails are based on hopes, fears and speculations rather than the facts. Because of this, I thought it might be nice for have just one blog article to point people to with all the facts neatly gathered so that people can use their discernment.
Doreen Virtue keeps referring to ‘nasty rumours’ about her. It is all too easy for people to just take her word for some of the things said being nothing but rumours when the facts aren’t easily accessible. This is why I feel it is my duty to make the facts as easy to find as possible in service to the Truth. I’m also remembering how Doreen Virtue herself encouraged this kind of peaceful activism against corrupt businesses in her Year Ahead Angel Oracle reading for 2017. You’re welcome, Doreen!
All Hell Breaks Loose
In April 2017, Doreen Virtue releases a video that details her conversion experience as well as her feelings about the New Age movement and the people in it which she claim to be influenced by lower energy. She states clearly that the only way to avoid eternal damnation is through faith in Jesus Christ (not the New Age version but the REAL Jesus). How does she know this? Toward the end of the video she reveals that her partner Michael (who took her second husband’s name) told her to start watching NDE (near death experience) videos on YouTube of people being rescued from hell by ‘the real Jesus.’ (And yes, if you are thinking that you need to question the theology of people who get it off YouTube videos you are absolutely right.)
Incidentally, this process of watching YouTube videos of NDE hell rescues also played a big part fundamentalist Christian Steven Bancarz’s conversion story as he states himself in his 700 Club Testimony. Steven’s video predates Doreen’s initial conversion story from January 2017. I mention Steven because it became apparent that he and Doreen had struck up a friendship and she appeared on his YouTube channel for an interview (ETA July 2018: deleted in favour of a new testimonial interview in May 2018) not long after the Maui TV Interview (see below). The April video is deleted after only a couple of days and not long after this, Hay Houses starts heavily pushing a couple of Doreen’s New Age courses, which she clearly believes to be of ‘lower energy.’ Sadly most people don’t realise this because the evidence has gone up in smoke.
Denouncing the Tarot, Divination and Mediumship
The Maui Tv Interview is where Doreen denounces Tarot, divination and mediumship. The fact that she doesn’t use the word ‘denounce’ herself is completely irrelevant since she clearly puts these practices to bed because they are not Biblical according to Old Testament laws by which she herself would have been put to death. She states that she is refusing revenue from sales of any Tarot-related products. Her share of the income generated for the sale of these products go to Hay House charity instead. She still accepts revenue from the Oracle Decks that she knows people use for divination.
Doreen Virtue continues to actively promote the CACR course (which contains Tarot) on her AngelTherapy.com site. (ETA July 2018: This is no longer relevant but she and Hay House still continue to profit from her New Age online courses, sold on the Hay House sites to a global audience) She also actively continues to promote, sell and profit from other courses that contain teachings that she has distanced herself from as being of demonic/lower energy origins. The Angel Intuitive course is one such course as it contains divination and mediumship, as is the Fairyologist course which also contains divination as well as information about the Faery Gods and Goddesses.
Mistreatment of Students
When students on the courses mentioned above seek to gain clarity about where Doreen stands on specific issues, whole discussion threads are deleted and some students are blocked from the student forums without explanation but presumable for simply seeking clarification and thereby putting Doreen in an awkward position. You can find evidence of this from one of the fairyologist students HERE. It is quite clear from the way the forum moderators behave on these courses that they are there to protect Doreen rather than to help students. ETA July 2018: You can read about recent developments for the fairyology students HERE.
Student mistreatment is not exclusive to the New Age courses, as I myself have experienced. Uncomfortable questions were deleted on the Angelologist forum too. This is supposedly a course based on the ‘theological doctrine of angels,’ something that Doreen Virtue – as it turns out – is in no way qualified to teach. There were some pretty bad factual errors in this hastily put together course. I document everything about the lies and gaslighting (includes screenshots) that happened HERE. Because I didn’t keep quiet about this mistreatment and other things that were going on, I received a very insulting note from the Virtues that you will find at the bottom of my refund battle post.
The Animal Rescue is Dissolved
One of the reasons I signed up for Doreen Virtue’s Angelologist course was because she had promised that the proceeds would 100% go to feeding the rescue animals that she and Michael had given their forever home. When I learned about that the animal rescue was going to be dissolved, I was very disheartened and disillusioned.
We were told by Michael Virtue that they could not afford to keep the animals and how all the donation money only covered 10% of the cost of the feed. Even if this were true, the real truth is most likely that the Virtues never needed donations at all to feed they rescue animals if they truly wished to keep them. My friend, the Celtic Fairy, has documented what happened HERE.
We have since learned that soliciting for donations is illegal in the state of Hawaii for non-registered charities. Perhaps this is why the Virtues claimed to pay for the care and feeding of the animals with their own work in this article even though we have proof they were actively soliciting at the time of the interview.
Still Collecting Funds for Disbanded Animal Rescue
Below you will find a screenshot from Doreen Virtue’s EarthAngel.com site. The screenshot was taken 6 October, 2017.
Doreen Virtue Speaks with a Forked Tongue
Doreen Virtue claims to be on a non-judgmental Christian Path. Hay House keeps backing/repeating this statement to customers who aren’t happy because they feel judged after watching Doreen’s Videos and hearing words of judgment from her own mouth. However, in official Hay House videos and broadcasts she uses a completely different voice, trying to reassure all her former students that their certificates are still valid, as well as asking people to not listen to the ‘nasty rumours.’
Yet to her Christian friends, such as the people in the ‘New Age to Christianity Recovery‘ group she used to be admin of on Facebook, she is very clear about being a fundamentalist Christian now. There is documentation of how she encourages Chick Tract style evangelism HERE. And HERE you will find evidence that Doreen states that Wayne Dyer wasn’t Christian enough. Sugar-coated judgment is still judgment.
Condemnation of Those Who Practise Divination and Mediumship
Then there is the bashing of anyone who doesn’t believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible when it comes to divination and mediumship. Copied and pasted from Doreen Virtue’s FAQ page on AngelTherapy.com:
Q. I understand that Doreen doesn’t do mediumship or use tarot cards anymore, but I still want to. Is that okay?
A. Doreen respects everyone’s right to choose their own spiritual path and follow their own inner guidance. She does recommend reading about God’s word regarding these topics in Deuteronomy 18:10–12, Isaiah 8:19–20, and Leviticus 19 through 20.
For those of you who think, ‘Ah, OK she’s not judging anyone,’ please take a moment to look up the Bible passages she is referring to. I have copied the first one from Deuteronomy 18 below for you:
10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.
Doreen Virtue Does Not Sin…?
Time for Steven Bancarz to wake up and smell the coffee perhaps? A big clue that Doreen Virtue is not a sincere convert to Christianity can be found in his video interview (ETA July 2018: this video was deleted by SB before uploading a new interview that will no doubt have better appeal to the fundies). Steven Bancarz asked Doreen Virtue about ‘conviction of sin’ and she started squirming in her seat. She didn’t confess to hers, yet she wants others to confess to theirs by walking them down the Roman’s Road. Doreen didn’t need to do that though (she is special) – Jesus, apparently – came to her directly in a vision instead and she was good to go straight into being a teacher/prophetess who now profits from Christian teachings instead of demonic New Age teachings. Funny that.
a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill.
The Refunds All Students Should Be Entitled To
I have spoken to plenty of people who not only feel that their Doreen Virtue certificates are worthless but who have also suffered financial loss and emotional pain because of Doreen Virtue’s post CONversion behaviour. While Hay House have made good and granted refunds to all who asked once it became apparent that Doreen Virtue was in complete condemnation of her former students (saying they were used by demons etc), she herself continues to refuse refunds.
All companies registered by Doreen Virtue, outside Hay House, are refusing refunds for any reason other than not having started courses. If that is not proof that her conversion is not genuine, I don’t know what is. A Christ-like spirit would be to confess to wrongdoing and to seek to make amends. Instead, Doreen Virtue expects people believe that her gift has now been elevated to a higher plane and that we need to follow her to that plane (read keep spending our hard-earned cash). The problem, other than this quite obviously being founded in delusions of grandeur, is of course that her new teachings are also fear-based.
I hope and pray that this post serves the Truth well, in the name of Love.
PS. This post was originally posted on www.angelorum.co 6 October 2017